7/14/2023 0 Comments Old garmin mapinstall![]() At some point, Garmin may roll out a web portal that completely replaces basecamp for your older devices. my take is that you will probably be able to continue using Basecamp with your existing GPS, although there may be additional hoops to jump through and bugs are not going to be fixed. But that can also get complicated, and is more than what the average user will want to do. There are still some work-arounds - for both Windows and Macs - such as running a virtual machine with an old operating system that is compatible with Basecamp. So, for example, if Apple introduces a new iMac in November 2019, it will only be compatible with 64-bit apps and can't be downgraded to an older operating system. But when Apple releases new Macs, they won't run older operating systems. Of course, you don't have to upgrade to that new operating system, and probably shouldn't with an older computer anyway. But the current 32 bit Basecamp won't work on the next operating system the Apple releases in 2019. I'm not clear on whether the same map installation problem exists with the Mac version, I have heard conflicting stories. This thread discusses the problem and how to downgrade: AFAIK, it still runs on current versions of Windows. You can also use Mapsource, Garmin's older software. But that isn't so easy and the "average guy" won't know how. Now you can downgrade to the old Basecamp, and that is the immediate fix for the problem. My interpretation is that Garmin just gave the finger to anyone who wants to use alternative, free maps on their devices. So they must be aware of the problem, but 7 months later, it hasn't been fixed and Garmin says Basecamp is finished. There is no incentive for them to fix this, aside from pleasing people who are using free third party maps instead of buying Garmin products. And by the time users started complaining, Garmin had already pulled the plug on Basecamp and assigned their programmers to another project. So I'd guess it's just sloppy coding, because this problem never existed in old versions of the software. If they wanted to stop you from sending maps, they would just discontinue MapInstall, or have it put up a message that third party maps aren't supported. It just has to be a bug, and not something intentional. But the problem with not being able to send maps to the GPS is outrageous. They probably think Basecamp is already "good enough", and I don't really disagree. I think we are just seeing Garmin adapt to a rapidly changing market and allocate their resources to maximize profit. At least Garmin has been better at that, I haven't heard any serious complaints from people with older automotive devices. TomTom and Magellan have angered a lot of people by dropping lifetime map subscriptions. For some strange reason, the Oregon 700 reverted back to the 100 tile limit. This lets you load a 5x larger portion of my maps. the Oregon 600 can use 500 custom map tiles, just like the Montana (your Oregon 450 can only use 100 tiles). One curious thing about the Oregon 600 vs 700. ![]() For awhile, there were a lot of Montana refurbs but I haven't seen any recently. I'm not going to spend that much just to replace my 2011 technology. The newer version of the Montana is a minor update and usually goes for ~$450 new. I thought seriously about replacing my broken Montana a couple months ago and looked all over the web but didn't find a thing that interested me. I think we're watching the slow death of handheld GPS devices, Garmin is the only remaining company. Wonder what's up with that? Garmin just updated three pushbutton handheld devices, but no new touchscreens. ![]() Now there are virtually no touchscreen devices at all. Was just looking at GPSCity, they used to have a nice stock of refurbs and new models. I'd be surprised if they still have any Oregon 450's laying around in 2019. But it was 2015 when Guy got that deal from Garmin (which I thought was really good). $100 is about all I'd pay for an Oregon 450 - that even strikes me as rather high. ![]()
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